Author: Red_hilliard (Red_hilliard)
Friday, April 18, 2008 - 3:26 pm

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Hey Donnie I tryed to post on the Club Business thing to find out about When & IF we are going to have a Work Day any time soon.?? Let's me Open it but Won't let me post.?? What's the deal here.?? It Let me before.??
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Author: Steve_p (Steve_p)
Friday, April 18, 2008 - 8:10 pm
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Red I am having the same problem. Good to see ya post. I have been out of pocket the last few weeks. Hope to see ya next Sunday.
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Author: Roy Wolff (Oleman)
Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 9:54 am
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Same here.
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Author: Don Ferguson (Ferg620)
Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 12:34 pm
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Red, Post comments about a work day in the Public Forum section - Out On The Porch. You want to reach as many people as possible. Access to the Club Business section is for registered members only. It is a controlled access folder and will be used to post legal documents, official minutes, and complaints. Posting in the Club Business section was changed some time ago, all postings in this section should be emailed to the Communications Director, Donnie will make the postings. Thanks, Don
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Author: Roy Wolff (Oleman)
Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 7:41 pm
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Don: I think I am a registered member of the HCB web site. Emailing what you want to post makes no sense. Why have the HCB business folder if registered folks cannot post? JMO, this is getting difficult!
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Author: Steve_p (Steve_p)
Saturday, April 19, 2008 - 8:20 pm
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What good is it to send everything you want to post to another person that will post it. Don this is not the right way to do this. When a member has a concern they should be able to post it. I have never heard such a thing. It would be hard to make a complaint when it has to be proof read first. The last time I checked everyone that is trying to post is a current member. Why are we making this so hard.
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Author: Red_hilliard (Red_hilliard)
Sunday, April 20, 2008 - 6:25 pm

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Don, I thought I WAS a Registered Member.??
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Author: Don Ferguson (Ferg620)
Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 12:01 pm
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Red, Your question was about posting in the Club Business section. That is for members only, and each member must register separately to access that folder. All postings must be sent to Donnie first. If you are asking if you are an active member, you need to ask Steve or Cliff - whoever has the club books. You don't register to become a member, you pay your money and are added to the membership list. Calling ourselves 'registered club members' is not a problem, but you still have to register separately to access the Club Business section. Anyone who does not like that procedure has the opportunity to change it at any meeting. See you next Sunday. Don
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Author: Red_hilliard (Red_hilliard)
Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 8:02 pm

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Don, this is weird, cause I had no problem posting on January the 19th 2008.???
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Author: Steve_p (Steve_p)
Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 8:34 pm
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Don Why would you need to send a post to Donnie first. That makes no sense at all, when was this voted on and added to the bylaws
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Author: Steve_p (Steve_p)
Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 8:36 pm
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Red I will have the books after Sunday.
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Author: Donnie (Donnie)
Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - 10:24 pm
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This section was created as a place to post offical business notifications, like: minutes, infomation from the property owner, etc. Kind of like your public notices in the local newspapers. I don't proof anything that someone sends me to be posted in Official Club Business either. Things like workdays, volunteering for an event ect are not related to Club Business, so should be posted in the Out on the Porch area.
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Author: Red_hilliard (Red_hilliard)
Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - 4:46 pm

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OK, Donnie, Thank's, that clear's that up.! I just thought it was kind of Weird that I Could post on the Club Business in January but Not in April.??? I Do know it's only for Member's use also. That being the case ,I Should have been able to do my post then.! Right ???
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Author: Donnie (Donnie)
Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 12:06 am
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It was changed after Jan., when I was asked to change it to a read only section.
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Author: Roy Wolff (Oleman)
Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 8:30 pm
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Donnie: To clear the air, who asked you to change to "read only" and who approved this, without members vote?
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Author: Donnie (Donnie)
Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 8:57 pm
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Don asked me to make it a read only section to begin with. I didn't get done right away. I didn't realize that a members vote was required to create a new section on the message board. If a Video section was added to the message board do we need to take it to the membership for a vote?
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Author: Roy Wolff (Oleman)
Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 9:19 pm
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Since the beginning, yes, anything being changed that affected HCB required membership approval. That was what made HCB a members oganization.Members have the final word, approve/disapprove. Changes were not made without members input!
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Author: Donnie (Donnie)
Thursday, April 24, 2008 - 10:03 pm
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Personally, I didn't think adding a section to a message board affected the HCB to the point where a membership vote was required. I can understand if someone wanted to buy a couple 3-D targets to donate to a camp for kids, where money is going out...but getting membership approval to add a new section to a message board to NOTIFY members of official club business seems a little over board to me. What if I wanted to start doing a quaterly newsletter and send it to all members via e-mail. Do I need to get member approval for that too? If so, how does this affect the HCB in a manner that a vote is required to allow notification of club happenings. I don't see where members need to post in the topic area where minutes are posted. If members want to discus business, I thought it was standard practice to attend meetings where the new business or old business can be discussed and the discussion can be officially recorded into the minutes.
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Author: Roy Wolff (Oleman)
Friday, April 25, 2008 - 10:42 am
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I can respect part of your post Donnie. But when members do not or cannot attend meetings, but would like to make comments to the meeting minutes when posted, it makes no sense to not allow that. Having to email someone so their comments can be posted doesn't make alot of sense. When a member is barred from posting his/her comment in a section of the members web site, it does affect HCB. And will surely create official club business to be discussed in the Out on the Porch. JMO
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Author: Denton (Denton)
Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 11:03 am
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Author: reserved user so nobody will take t (Moderator) Monday, January 28, 2008 - 2:10 am As you may notice I have created a Club Buisness Topic Area. All club buisness needs to be discussed there. Some buisness related threads have been moved from the gereral discussion area to the Club buisness area. Other club buisness threads will eventually end up there as well. Thank you It's hard to discuss club business in a section that has all members blocked, why even have this section if only one person can post on it. It seems that for the last few months a lot of changes that have been made have been followed up with the comment "if members don't like it then change it at the meetings" this was not the way the club was set up to be ran, we voted on changes first. The way it is being ran now is that changes happen and then the members have to react to the changes instead of getting to have input first. It seems that there would be more happy members if they got to give input before something was changed. This is just my 2 cents and I'm not trying to personally attack anybody!
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Author: Eric Pack (Epack)
Saturday, April 26, 2008 - 8:39 pm

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if it is club buisness , let the club discuss buisness there, if you want your own thread to post club news why dont we call it club news.? if members cannot post commets on topics it appears that nobody has any objections, let all comments, praise, complaits be heard. there will be no questions on who made the decisions then just a suggestion
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